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Post by Whiskers on Jun 2, 2009 16:42:34 GMT -5
I was going to recommend a book.
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Oh. I'm curious-- which book? I would still like to check it out. I might find something in it that I haven't seen/read/heard before.
What do you mean by that?
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I mean that they do not believe that homosexuality is a sin.
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Post by glowlynose on Jun 2, 2009 16:46:38 GMT -5
"I'm not going to believe in Him because you tell me it is so."
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I figured it would be something along those lines. Okay then.
"Could you rephrase that?"
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Most certainly.
You said, to quote, "The only ones I don't believe in are those that are cruel or take pleasure in tormenting their believers. Even if they do exist, I don't believe in them. Why encourage them?"
You also said, to quote, "The thing is, I believe in gods/goddesses, but not the things they supposedly did/said. If they're gods, why bother with that kind of stuff?"
"Not the things they supposedly did." "Those that are cruel or take pleasure in tormenting their believers."
Tormenting believers = doing something.
You said you didn't bother with what they did.
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Post by Ten on Jun 2, 2009 16:52:21 GMT -5
"Oh. I'm curious-- which book? I would still like to check it out. I might find something in it that I haven't seen/read/heard before."
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The Case for Christ, which was, if my memory serves, written by a former atheist.
I've tried reading some of it and the sources seemed more than credible, though difficult to understand due to the intellectual level of it all being above mine.
"I mean that they do not believe that homosexuality is a sin."
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Homosexuality, like the theory of evolution, is a word that can be applied in different senses.
Do you mean homosexual actions, or people... mm, for lack of a better phrase... with homosexual mindsets?
"Even if they do exist, I don't believe in them."
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-just now reread and noticed this sentence-
...Even if they exist, you don't believe they exist? That's acknowledging their existance, is it not?
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Post by May on Jun 2, 2009 16:52:45 GMT -5
Tormenting believers = doing something.
You said you didn't bother with what they did.
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These gods could have been A. false gods or B. gods that weren't very powerful, so they resorted to causing pain and suffering among their believers to make themselves feel powerful.
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Post by Ten on Jun 2, 2009 16:54:14 GMT -5
"These gods could have been A. false gods"
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I thought you believe in all gods?
"or B. gods that weren't very powerful, so they resorted to causing pain and suffering among their believers to make themselves feel powerful."
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That's what they're alledged to have done, anyway.
I thought you didn't believe in what they're supposed to have done?
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Post by Whiskers on Jun 2, 2009 16:56:47 GMT -5
The Case for Christ
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My dad has that one and I'll be sure to ask to borrow it. Thank you
Do you mean homosexual actions, or people... mm, for lack of a better phrase... with homosexual mindsets?
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That's a great question... I suppose the "sin" is when one acts on their temptations, so homosexual actions.
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Post by glowlynose on Jun 2, 2009 16:57:46 GMT -5
"These gods could have been A. false gods or B. gods that weren't very powerful, so they resorted to causing pain and suffering among their believers to make themselves feel powerful."
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So you believe in the gods that go skipping through fields of daisies with magical unicorns and rainbows and never do anything? Sounds a bit biased if you ask me.
I mean, people can make up gods for anything. When we were in seventh grade we did this project where we had to make up a god or goddess and prove their existence. Mine was -forgot name xDD- the goddess of chocolate chips.
So how do you know that those gods and goddesses you believe in that don't "torment their believers" or whatever are any more real than the ones that do?
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Post by tiddler on Jun 6, 2009 14:59:12 GMT -5
I'll believe in god when the bible stops having loopholes and hypocracy laced throughout.
I studied religion extensively for years, and no religious text is ever consistant.
All 'Gods' appear to have multi-personality disorders. How intriguing.
Seriously, when God himself comes down and gives me a bible going "lulz dis ma word dawg" I'll believe in him. Until then, I think stupid, selfish people wrote them as way to control the world.
Also, can I point out that many disciples were not allowed to add certain parts of their stories into the bible because it mentioned the sins of Jesus and the mistakes 'God' made? =/
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Post by Ten on Jun 7, 2009 14:19:14 GMT -5
"I'll believe in god when the bible stops having loopholes and hypocracy laced throughout."
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I like how you assume
god = Christian God
-shrug- but okay.
I don't believe I've ever been confronted with all these hypocrisies I hear about,
which is strange, considering...
anyway, give an example?
"All 'Gods' appear to have multi-personality disorders. How intriguing."
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I don't think it's all that interesting that different people have different ways of relating events.
"I think stupid, selfish people wrote them as way to control the world."
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I want to ask if you're kidding but I have a sad feeling that you might not be.
If somebody wanted to control the world,
creating Christianity is the stupidest course of action.
"can I point out"
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I believe you have just now.
"many disciples were not allowed to add certain parts of their stories into the bible"
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You make it sound like they were alive at the time, but I know what you mean.
"the sins of Jesus and the mistakes"
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Can you elaborate?
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Post by essie on Jun 7, 2009 19:04:45 GMT -5
I don't believe in any god. I believe there is some sort of hell though. Life's too screwed up for you to get anything good out of dying xD
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We have a cbox again and we're opening the place up as a closed, members only rp